tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post9007718936231251030..comments2024-03-05T17:55:58.806+00:00Comments on Nanny Knows Best: Nanny Bans Christmas LightsKen Frosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13568488818950912374noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-56220067498763122492007-11-09T12:01:00.000+00:002007-11-09T12:01:00.000+00:00'Birmingham, some years ago renamed Christmas "Win...'Birmingham, some years ago renamed Christmas "Winterval" '<BR/><A HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/christmas2006/story/0,,1967367,00.html" REL="nofollow">Oh no they didn't!</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-87674209855604793002007-10-17T14:41:00.000+01:002007-10-17T14:41:00.000+01:00Grant,I think that somewhere in my friend's letter...Grant,<BR/>I think that somewhere in my friend's letter (about page 17 if memory serves), there is a paragraph dealing with the optimum size of bloomer that one may legally hang out to dry. <BR/>It follows the chapter about the necessity of consulting the Council's weather expert in order to decide both the strength and the direction of the prevailing wind on one's nominated washing day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-32618506672815889662007-10-17T01:26:00.000+01:002007-10-17T01:26:00.000+01:00grumpy wrote:"my mate's letter was sent to me as p...grumpy wrote:<BR/><BR/>"my mate's letter was sent to me as part of a discussion about the increasingly 'popular' game of dressing-up one's house for Christmas.<BR/>It was my opinion that, by covering houses with glittering lights, at least they were made an easily seen target for bombers - an idea who's time has come IMHO."<BR/><BR/>Agreed. Around the corner from me we have a whole street of them. I think they have probably written the need for involvement into the deeds of the houses in case anyone tries to escape the Close. I can't see them being able to sell to anyone with the money to buy.<BR/><BR/>grumpy further wrote:<BR/><BR/>"However, sticking somebody in jail for putting up a washing line (whether illuminated or not) still strikes me as a tad excessive."<BR/><BR/>Very true unless of course they were repeat offenders and used it to display over-sized bloomers to attract the local peeping toms.<BR/><BR/>What we must remember is that for a council owned property there will be an entire support team, tax funded, to provide such services likely FOC for most occupants.<BR/><BR/>Bear in mind that the use of ladders may be required and the potential for delay whilst the staff are trained could be frustrating BUT the service will almost certainly keep half the council staff employed, thus boosting the local economy. At the same time the tenant may be in luck if a shoddy job is provided since they could well sue the landlord (the council) for injuries or failure of service or efficacy of the way the thing was fitted. This action would keep the other half of the council staff employed.<BR/><BR/>As you can see the idea of enforcing rules of occupancy and control of service delivered is a win-win situation for all concerned in the long term.<BR/><BR/>I won't go into the way the finances work - Ken's an accountant so I'm sure he can explain it much better than I.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-58500398430902695752007-10-16T11:28:00.000+01:002007-10-16T11:28:00.000+01:00Grant, my mate's letter was sent to me as part of ...Grant, <BR/>my mate's letter was sent to me as part of a discussion about the increasingly 'popular' game of dressing-up one's house for Christmas.<BR/>It was my opinion that, by covering houses with glittering lights, at least they were made an easily seen target for bombers - an idea who's time has come IMHO.<BR/>However, sticking somebody in jail for putting up a washing line (whether illuminated or not) still strikes me as a tad excessive.<BR/><BR/>One can't help but agree with anon 2:45 about the whole rotten 'Elf&Safety' thing - politicos are scum, lawyers are worse scum; allowing them to combine the two 'professions' and then letting them loose, both to create and implement the law, is an act of utter bloody stupidity on the voter's part that we are now living to regret. 'Things Can Only Get Worse', as the NuLab rallying song should have said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-10997031715742726762007-10-15T22:45:00.000+01:002007-10-15T22:45:00.000+01:00>> As to how we got ourselves into this mess, I am...>> As to how we got ourselves into this mess, I am afraid it's a combination of a number of factors:<BR/><BR/>Lets not miss out from that list the Courts and Legal Services Act 1990 that introduced conditional fee agreements that paved the way for the no win no fee brigade. <BR/><BR/>Given the state of things in the US, why it wasn't obvious that this would only lead to a mass of frivoulous litigation by people with nothing to loose, still amazes me.<BR/><BR/>Oh wait, ... no, ... why am I surprised? Politicians voted for this and most of them are lawyers. The wily ones would have seen the opportunity for easy money in their private practice and the inept would let it pass unhindered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-70581362029625833722007-10-15T21:53:00.000+01:002007-10-15T21:53:00.000+01:00As regular readers of NKB will know I am not one t...As regular readers of NKB will know I am not one to be often contrary about the opinions expressed by our dear Ken nor, typically, have I ever been known to support politicians, councils and most of the H&S epidemic.<BR/><BR/>However this particular subject (though not grumpy's mate's letter from the council) does give me some hope. Not so much about the lights - for which one might observe that if the lamp posts are not strong enough to hang some lights from once in a while one has to wonder if they are fit for their intended purpose at all - but more in the hope that the absurdity of displays that has overtaken the country in recent years may be toned down somewhat. If not I foresee the Weasels of Westminster demanding carbon taxes and offset payments for all things to do with lights.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore the dispklays would clearly need to be created from the new low consumption bulbs and those are somewhat reliant on Mercury as well as being not too reliable in function. The idea of closing a few town centres at peak shopping times because some wag has smashed a low energy bulb and thereby caused an H&S major chemical spillage alert might not be attractive to the retailers.<BR/><BR/>But mostly this concept gives me hope that other forms risk could be curbed. For me that would mean the dreadful repetitive cacophany that is Xmas music played incessantly for weeks before the event. It's bad enough that nearly all stores (even out sweet little local Co-op in the last week or so) now have their own 'Radio' stationsn on perpetually but to have them all on and playing flaming Noddy Holder 24/7 really is too much. (Nothing against Noddy, a bit of colour in an all too grey world, but there are limits and in the case of 'that song' the limit was after year two. And I feel I'm being generous there.)<BR/><BR/>So, if banning the lights is a prelude to banning the excruciating noise pollution music that tends to accompany the lights, I'm all for it. The risk, if such a thing does not happen, is that I and a few others of like mind, might just run amok due to brain pattern interference and inadvertently smash some Low energy lightbulbs thus shutting down town centre around the country. It would not be our faults of course, Indeed I would expect to sue the LA for a healthy sum for not properly managing local noise pollution levels.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-61815937199488097872007-10-15T18:15:00.000+01:002007-10-15T18:15:00.000+01:00is it not strange that up north the muslims are no...is it not strange that up north the muslims are not having any trouble about festive lights to mark the end of eid, in fact the police have complemented both them and the council for the display.Under the articles of the UN declaration of the rights of indigenous peoples, we the natives of England have an absolute right to display and celebrate our culture,our religion and our traditions, past ,present and future,so go to it people wether the council or thier overseas friends like it or not, tough,this is ENGLAND!ENGLISHMANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169065365049917275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-86820289553710808032007-10-15T16:22:00.000+01:002007-10-15T16:22:00.000+01:00Sadly, both Tonk and alan g have already - it seem...Sadly, both Tonk and alan g have already - it seems - been overtaken by events.<BR/>A friend of mine from Lancashire writes to tell me that Council House tenants (Do they still call them that?) have already been warned that:<BR/> "...affixing any device intended to support washing lines or appertunances intended by the tenant to serve a similar function at a height greater than two metres above the mean ground level, or electrical fittings or supports for same, or other devices which require affixation to the outer surface of any dwelling, out-building or other fixed or immobile building at any height or which may be deemed by any officer of the Local Authority or operative or other duly authorised person to constitute an immobile (temporary or permanent) building, must comply with the relevant Health and Safety regulation as required by the said authority. Any such work must first be authorised by an Officer of the..........Council (hereinafter 'The Council') and is to be undertaken only by duly accredited, trained and authorised employees of said Council or by such companies, firms or other organisations holding the Council's express warrant for such operations.<BR/>Tenants who are found to be in breach of this order will be prosecuted and may be required to pay restitution costs, (which costs may or may not include any specific or non-specific costs in amelioration of the Council's assessment of, or obligation to make enhanced payment with regard to specialised training of, or to specific risks by, operatives involved in any, or all, subsequent dismantling and/or renovation operations ), which may be incurred by said Council. <BR/>The Council further reserves the right to report and/or prosecute any tenant found to be in breach of (or suspected of being in breach of) these regulations on the charge of inflicting criminal damage.........." (It goes on like this for several pages).<BR/><BR/>So remember folks. stick a Christmas light on your house and go to nick for the New Year.<BR/><BR/>Season's Greetings to you all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-44135600894540033072007-10-15T15:33:00.000+01:002007-10-15T15:33:00.000+01:00Good, let's call off Christmas altogetherGood, let's call off Christmas altogetherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-91069994104776023732007-10-15T15:05:00.000+01:002007-10-15T15:05:00.000+01:00You're right Ken - it all comes down to greed in a...You're right Ken - it all comes down to greed in a handful of people, which spoils it for everyone else. <BR/><BR/>Sadly Tonk - I think you may well be right. It will doubtless take one minor incident and a complaint from a muppet to get the whole elf n' safety brigade and the councils calling for more regulations and restrictions on home displays. <BR/><BR/>By the way, has bonfire night been banned yet??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-8110971831825234082007-10-15T11:21:00.000+01:002007-10-15T11:21:00.000+01:00Crazy....Who are to blame?....well we all are for ...Crazy....Who are to blame?....well we all are for allowing it to go this far.<BR/>'Elf n Safety this and 'Elf n Safety that...I think it is just a cover all excuse...There does seem to be a conserted effort by the PC brigade to get Christianity out of the public's lives. There are no more PC organisations then local authorities.<BR/>I agree the "No win no fee" brigade have partly destroyed our way of life, but there are a class of muppets in this country that will sue for the least little thing....Often it is cheaper for companies to settle rather than fight. What the muppets cannot understand is that all these costs are passed on to the rest of us. Hence the rise in insurance premiums.<BR/>I suspect that the next target will be home owners that put on a Christmas display in their garden...I expect there will be some sort of license required to erect the display with all the inspection costs and license fees payable to the local council....Kerching and penalty charges for failure to comply....Kerching Kerching....Rant over!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com