tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post6311339295216526766..comments2024-03-05T17:55:58.806+00:00Comments on Nanny Knows Best: The Dangers of SausagesKen Frosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13568488818950912374noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-48085981543737530862008-04-06T17:19:00.000+01:002008-04-06T17:19:00.000+01:00Out Of Touch? Are you mental? The only person who ...Out Of Touch? Are you mental? The only person who comes out of this will is the judge. He made a very valid point and stood up perfectly for his beliefs in a system that rarely allows that! He made exactly the right decision and "Machiavelli's Understudy", maybe you ought to think about how you would have reacted if you were the judge. A lot differently I'm sure!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-65202206485694161092007-08-25T22:55:00.000+01:002007-08-25T22:55:00.000+01:00Machiavelli's Understudy may well be right and I w...Machiavelli's Understudy may well be right and I would guess that the lad probably does need some sort of sorting out.<BR/><BR/>However I can't imagine how taking a kid to court for assault with a cocktail sausage helps anyone.<BR/><BR/>If he has had 3 previous warnings how come there was not some natural followup event for the 4th instance of a problem? After all I thought the whole point of an ASBO (and presumably similar instruments) is to create a criminal offence that can be used when people who cause a nuisance with otherwise legal actions are deemed to need more severe punishment.<BR/><BR/>Breaking the terms of an ASBO, though it be a very backdoor law, might have more resonance with the public than assault with a cocktail sausage.<BR/><BR/>Better still, if he really is a little monster, take him into care and give everyone, including his parents, a break.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-256219853151203772007-08-24T17:04:00.000+01:002007-08-24T17:04:00.000+01:00So, despite the boy having been reprimanded by the...So, despite the boy having been reprimanded by the police on three previous occasions, you still feel that this next step was unwarranted?<BR/><BR/>The judge is deluded and out of touch to compare the incident to Just William. 'William' wasn't a vindictive little shit, whereas I suspect that this boy is. Such kids can be intimidating to other people going about their business.<BR/><BR/>Whilst I despair at the culture of waste that is endemic across our state infrastructure, criminal justice is one of the few areas where I don't wish to see it become a factor in every decision to prosecute or sentence.<BR/><BR/>Yes, it might be disproportionately costly to exercise the system in an instance of sausage-throwing, but then we lose out if we give up and only deal with 'expensive' crimes, like murder and rape (and, of course, speeding and insulting people).<BR/><BR/>I'm not saying that officers shouldn't exercise discretion- they absolutely should, and would probably do so more often if they were of a less officious bent and didn't have to please target-chasers, but discretion was exercised with the boy prior to them taking this course of action.Machiavelli's Understudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18150445761766304667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-73934625660492572132007-08-23T14:00:00.000+01:002007-08-23T14:00:00.000+01:00The report I read suggested that the lad might hav...The report I read suggested that the lad might have some behavioural problem history and that, based on a quoted comment from the lad, the elderly gentleman, a neighbour, was having a go at him 'as usual' (or some phrase of similar meaning) before this sausage was launched.<BR/><BR/>So long term problems and antagonism may be involved. No one comes out of this well do they, except maybe the judge?<BR/><BR/>Perhaps plod were somply seeing a ready target for some positive stats given the previous. But I would have thought a fixed penalty for littering would have done as much good.<BR/><BR/>GrantAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-89368736777188931852007-08-23T11:43:00.000+01:002007-08-23T11:43:00.000+01:00In all seriousness there is something desperately ...In all seriousness there is something desperately wrong with our justice system when there are 11-year old boys being shot at random on the street in one city and 12-year old boys being arrested and charged with nonsense incidents. I think our entire justice system is in dire need of an overview.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-24305255822104004462007-08-23T11:27:00.000+01:002007-08-23T11:27:00.000+01:00Maybe I am getting old but I remember the days whe...Maybe I am getting old but I remember the days when if any of us had done such a thing and the police were involved, justice would have been meted out with a swift clip round the ear by the local bobby and the phrase "Your father will hear of this!". Far more effective both as a deterrent to future misbehaviour and cost wise.Kaptain_Vonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17625273381318758234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-78641929269233299792007-08-23T11:00:00.000+01:002007-08-23T11:00:00.000+01:00It seems crazy to prosecute a boy for assault with...It seems crazy to prosecute a boy for assault with a cocktail sausage and all the cost involved.<BR/>Perhaps nanny should legislate to put a "Throwing of this product may result in prosecution and a criminal record" warning on cocktail sausage packs. I am suprised he wasn't prosecuted under 'elf & safety laws instead of the offences against the persons act. Imagine the carnage had the victim of the cocktail sausage attack had been using a ladder at the time.....I shudder to think!! <BR/>Perhaps a parental slap would be the best course of action....old fashioned I know...but effective!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com