tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post6592016598379695439..comments2024-03-05T17:55:58.806+00:00Comments on Nanny Knows Best: Booze MattersKen Frosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13568488818950912374noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-60371248202726074682010-01-20T09:49:00.644+00:002010-01-20T09:49:00.644+00:00" . . . people learn how to drink without mak..." . . . people learn how to drink without making "c**ts" of themselves (or face a battering and banning from the landlord and regulars)."<br /><br />Ken,<br /><br />You've hit upon one of Nanny's pet peeves: the notion that a sensible society is largely self-regulating, and that embarassement and shame are very effective methods for dealing with troublesome behavior.<br /><br />Young people, in particular, have an exaggerated need to rebel against authority, as well as to crave approval and acceptance. In a world of adolescents run amok, and little or no adult interaction, you get, well, the sort of behavior we see all too often today. What a lot of "youfs" need is not therapy, ritalin, prozac, teen centers, or any of Nanny's other ministrations, but rather a room full of people reminding them of what a silly ass they made of themselves the night before, and how they'd be well advised not to do so again. And the more mockery and disdain, the better. Somehow, this seems to cut through all the emotional bullshit rather quickly, as most young people prefer not to be seen as drunken fools, and manage to grow up instead.<br /><br />What Nanny doesn't like about this method is that:<br /><br />1) there's no ker-ching for her, and<br /><br />2) it reminds people that, by and large, they can handle routine problem behavior, so long as she keeps her nose out of their business. <br /><br />Nanny doesn't want that at all.Black Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16347464061061628147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-1529054692448248352010-01-19T18:01:21.731+00:002010-01-19T18:01:21.731+00:00its just another way towards upping the taxes. Th...its just another way towards upping the taxes. The supermarkets are too bigs and have lots of political power and the pubs don't have the same representation level.<br /><br />Its just like the other story this morning... a Tax on chewing gum, cigs and "snacks" to cope with litter created. The councils already provide the staff to clear it up and this is just another way to get more money out of us with Stealth taxes.ENnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-36661343252235709242010-01-19T15:39:07.943+00:002010-01-19T15:39:07.943+00:00Many smokers warned that drink would be next. Nooo...Many smokers warned that drink would be next. Noooo that can never happen, not drink, everyone likes a drink, came the response. <br />Encouraging smoke free venues was a good thing, turning smokers into pariahs with nowhere to go was pure, undulterated spite. You didm't care, didn't affect you so why should you. Anyway you didn't like smoke so it was a good thing to ban it everywhere whether you went there or not.Now it is the drinkers turn. Who next I wonder. Perhaps this will stop the "slippery slope, what slippery slope" merchants, but I doubt it.<br />If you will not defend freedoms, even those you do not require yourself one day you will lose your own. Guess what, I don't care, I hope you end up living in an alcohol free desert. A comfortless, friendless barren wasteland devoid of human interaction. It is what you deserve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-26673318890461285002010-01-19T14:29:24.552+00:002010-01-19T14:29:24.552+00:00Ken, you suggested, "Drunken yobbery can be c...Ken, you suggested, "Drunken yobbery can be curtailed very simply by tattooing the foreheads of the yobs with the phrase:<br />"I am a drunken yob"<br />Then banning them from buying booze in any outlet, pub or club for a period of time."<br /><br />Brilliant idea, but no chance of it happening, it would contravene their 'uman rights', and even if parliament did pass legislation to allow this kind of punishment to be legal here, the European Court of Human Rights would very quickly poke its unwanted nose in, topping it and awarding the 'victim' a large sum in compensation, regardless of how much misery he/she had inflicted on others.Julius Caesarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-26604238656994800102010-01-19T12:01:11.164+00:002010-01-19T12:01:11.164+00:00I doubt if any of the things mentioned (all you ca...I doubt if any of the things mentioned (all you can drink ect) are even done any more. I worked for a few years for Thwaites and none of their pubs did any of those things and I beleive that was pretty standard for the big pub chains.<br />I think they are picking a problem that has already ceased to exist so they can point out what a good job they have done later on.<br /><br />Sainsburys have the 25s policy and they refused to serve my wife who is 29 and, i'll have to say, looks well over 18. I went down and explained that it is legal for adults (18-25) to buy booze but they were just smarmy smiles and "just doing our jobs". I tried to tell them their job was not to refuse to serve adults but they didnt seem to understand.Buckonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-60677410598300618232010-01-19T11:03:16.757+00:002010-01-19T11:03:16.757+00:00I wonder if the real reason Nanny wants to destroy...I wonder if the real reason Nanny wants to destroy the British Pub is because people go there and talk about things.....I wonder how many regulars talk about Nanny and EuroNanny and what needs doing about her....I suspect this is the reason Nanny hates pubs so much, plus of course she can't control the conversations nor thoughts of those regulars that put the world to right stood at the bar.Tonk.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377446.post-53069922463669143182010-01-19T10:44:49.201+00:002010-01-19T10:44:49.201+00:00In related news, we hear that the makers of 'W...In related news, we hear that the makers of 'WKD' <a href="http://dungeekin.blogspot.com/2010/01/wkd-makers-to-diversify.html" rel="nofollow">are to diversify</a> . . . <br /><br />DDungeekinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09181585428709956991noreply@blogger.com