The last few days have been a tad "busy" wrt daft c*nts making a**eholes of themselves.
In London I read that Camilla was poked with a stick and here, in Stockholm, some knobhead seems to have blown himself up with some sort of homemade pipebomb.
Sadly the world is populated with knobheads, intent on inflicting their inner "pain" onto others.
I have some sage advice that will at least help resolve street demos, which these days are populated by "feral" knobheads.
Whilst the UK media whips itslef up into "outrage" over the "stick poking" incident, and Nanny and her dog whistle politicians use such nonsense as an excuse for "tougher" laws etc I have a simple solution to future riots.
All that has to be done is for a few water cannon to be brought along to the next student riot. The water cannon should be filled with petrol (gas if you are in the USA), not water, and the crowd sprayed liberally with the petrol.
A senior polcie officer should then address the crowd and inform them, for their own "health and safety", that if they are not off the streets in five minutes he will be dropping a lighted match within their vicinity.
Problem solved!
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I'm not sure this is a good idea, just consider the potential damage to nearby buildings.
ReplyDeleteKen usually I agree with 99% of what you say but here you seem to be advocating the abolition of right to protest and I find this most worrying. I believe in the student's protest 100%, not least because I was one up until two years ago and still haven't been able to get paid employment and still have a huge debt over my head. Perhaps you disagree on the student's cause. If so I won't try and persuade you otherwise here but I thought the one philosophy you of all people would have followed unshakeably is 'I may disagree with what you say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it'. I think a few smashed windows is a small price to pay for the right to protest and you only have to look at the disgusting violence perpetrated by the police to see that they're not exactly standing up for the right either. You yourself admit they are turning into a bunch of thugs.
ReplyDelete'Oh yes you can protest so long as you don't mind being kettled in violation of both your rights to protest and free association and smacked on the head with a truncheon'. I don't think water cannons are exactly going to dispel this image.
Petrol is a slightly too extreme to start with, using water before petrol could be counter productive.
ReplyDeleteI was disappointed not to see any rubber bullets in use though. Can we trust our justice system to hold these yobs to account and make them pay for the clean up and repair any damage.
I have to agree with Speenzman, remove the right to object and remove the voice of the proletariat.
ReplyDeleteIts almost sounding like agreeing with 'Manufacturing Consent' ref: Chomsky/Herman as an appropriate action to reaction.
Speenzman:
ReplyDeleteYou can protest as long as you do so peacefully. If you let yourselves get infiltrated by Agent Provocateur and go along with their hate fuelled destructive path then you deserve everything coming to you.
Protests largely police themselves. Once this stops happening the protestors always outnumber the authorities trying to contain them. The only resort is to kettleing and other tactics.
Protest is fine. Using violence to get along your political message is never justified. It shows a lack of belief in the argument.
It might be a good idea for property owners to have the right to defend their property.
ReplyDeleteThey could hire a few rugby teams for example.
After all everyone has 'rights'.
MickS I'm afraid I don't agree that a few hooligans out for a scrap, which history shows us are always present at protests (and if you think what we've had recently is bad you should try Paris under Robespierre), is justification to assault a large number of civillians who are exercising their right to peaceful protest. Magnified up a short scale that sort of mentality is the reason innocent civillians end up as 'collateral damage' in military conflicts.
ReplyDeleteA Mori poll has shown that two thirds of ordinary citizens oppose the rise in tuition fees. If the government doesn't reflect the will of the people there is no democracy and that means we are ruled by a dictatorship and rising up against a dictatorship is quite a reasonable course of action in my view.
Ken, petrol would be out of the question. I mean, with the police farce budgets being cut and the price of petrol going up so much they simply couldn't afford it!
ReplyDeleteI think you may have gone just a tad over the top there, Ken.
ReplyDeleteI have a better idea that would not present such a fire risk.
ReplyDeleteSpray them with acid.
Then it will be easy to pick out the perpetrators later by their facial disfigurements.
I agree with Speenzman on this. The people proposing to raise tuition fees, having had the privilege of a free education themselves, have now pulled up the ladder thus denying the privilege to others. And what about election promises not to raise tuition fees? I do not condone violence or criminal damage, indeed, I utterly condemn such behaviour on either side. However, is it not possible that this has been blown out of all proportion by the media? In any case, are we sure that students were responsible for this unsavoury behaviour? Is it not more likely that the protests are being joined by activists of various political allegiances with their own reasons for wanting there to be trouble?
ReplyDeleteKen,
ReplyDeleteOff topic, but as I understand it, a broken condom in Sweden -- or sometimes just a broken heart -- constitutes forcible rape.
A word to the wise . . .
"Is it not more likely that the protests are being joined by activists of various political allegiances with their own reasons for wanting there to be trouble?"
ReplyDeleteNot least the police themselves who, knowing that there will be a violent element plant a van in the middle of the protestors then cry rabble on the whole crowd when it's smashed up by the violent minority! And the media aren't exactly known for rejecting sensationalism!
And let's not forget why these protests are happenning in the first place. As m'Lord rightly points out those who had the priviledge of free education are now pulling the ladder up behind them. Am I too cyncial to suggest the Tory ethic isn't exactly opposed to kicking the 'common scum' out of the universities are re-filling them with the socially and financially priviledged? Doesn't this very blog warn that what governments want is an uneducated majority because they're easier to rule over (read trample on)?