Seemingly they are not quite sure where it will fall to earth, and are worried that large parts of it will not burn up on re-entry.
Therefore are they warning us to "duck and cover"?
Errmmm..no not quite.
Their main concern is that people will come across parts of the satellite and touch it.
The danger being what?
Apparently "sharp edges"!
NASA has warned people not to touch the debris if they come across it, because it is likely to have sharp edges.
So don't worry about it landing on your head or anything, just fret about cutting your finger if you touch it;)
UPDATE
Britons will see a bright orange streak in the night sky to the south east at about 9pm.
Let's trust that it doesn't land in Waltham Forest, otherwise the council will take Nasa to court for dumping commercial waste!
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ReplyDeleteI'm staying out of my kitchen from now on.....
Ken,
ReplyDeleteI also heard via the state's broadcaster that, if one found a piece of this object, you could not keep it but would have to return it to the US government.....I wonder how it is possible that US laws can reach all around the world; do they think the whole world is within their jurisdiction?
I wonder what would happen if I found a piece and decided to keep it; how would the USA enforce their law? Would silly Nanny help them and if so, under what legislation?
Tonk
ReplyDeleteBliar gave the US the right to extradite British citizens to the US to face trial over there (rather than be tried in the UK under British law) without the need for prima facie evidence of a crime.
However, it is only a one way agreement!
- removes or restricts key protections for defendants
- signed and adopted without any parliamentary scrutiny
Under the treaty, the allegations of the US government will be enough to secure the extradition of people from the UK. However, if the UK wants to extradite someone from the US, evidence to the standard of a "reasonable" demonstration of guilt will still be required.
No other EU countries would accept this US demand, either politically or constitutionally. Yet the UK government not only acquiesced, but did so taking advantage of arcane legislative powers to see the treaty signed and implemented without any parliamentary debate or scrutiny.
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2003/jul/25ukus.htm
After it's struck me on the head, will the offending part of satellite have an addressed return label with prepaid postage? And do NASA realise if their property injures me I can toddle off down to Claims'R'Us and sue them?
ReplyDeleteOf more concern would be whether the debris might be contaminated with radioactivity? Quite a few large satellites were/are powered by small nuclear reactors.
Ken,
ReplyDeleteHow nasty, your post suggests that, in therory, if the USA made a law that it was a crime to have Frost as your surname worldwide, then they could extradite you from Frost Towers, take you before an American court and convict you of something that was not a crime in this country.....How bizzare; all thanks to But Wipe Blair.
I used to live in Walthamstow,and as the place is one huge dump I don't know how the council can determine one pile of rubbish from the entire lot. I hope the entire tonnage of space junk lands there.
ReplyDeleteTelegraph 24Sept 'Matt' cartoon - shows an object flying towards a car - and the driver receiving a warning "Look out" - from his Sat Nav.
ReplyDeleteBritons will see a bright orange streak in the night sky to the south east at about 9pm.
ReplyDeleteIt went straight over Slough - wasted opportunity if you ask me.
Having spent some 45 years making/bodging/repairing things from various bits of metal, I fail to see how an object subjected to intense heat during re-entry would have sharp edges. They would be rounded in the same way they would if I set about them with an oxy torch.
ReplyDeleteApparently it was put into orbit to monitor climate change...
According to Wikipedia it was powered by a 1.6kW solar panel and three 50amp/hour (car size) batteries, so no risk of radiation.
Ken - you might like (copyright permitting?) to add this sign to your 'masthead' gallery -
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@Disgusted - radiation risks?
According to Stephen Fry (on current edition of BBC2'QI XL') - 'Brazil nuts' can be sufficiently radioactive to trigger alarms in nuclear power stations (avoiding the purple ones in 'Quality Street' was mentioned - but as we all know these now contain hazelnuts instead - perhaps for this very reason) Hope this helps?
Sorry - the [link] in my last got chopped in transmission. Trying again-
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Tonk. said..."I wonder how it is possible that US laws can reach all around the world; do they think the whole world is within their jurisdiction?
ReplyDeleteI wonder what would happen if I found a piece and decided to keep it; how would the USA enforce their law? Would silly Nanny help them and if so, under what legislation?"
To answer your first question, Tonk, yes they do think the whole world is under their jurisdiction. As for your second question, you would either be arrested 'legally' as described by Ken, or alternatively kidnapped er, sorry, subjected to 'extraordinary rendition'. In either case, you would probably spend a very long time as their 'guest' at Guantamano Bay.
Ken Frost said...
"Bliar gave the US the right to extradite British citizens to the US to face trial over there (rather than be tried in the UK under British law) without the need for prima facie evidence of a crime. However, it is only a one way agreement!
- removes or restricts key protections for defendants
- signed and adopted without any parliamentary scrutiny
Under the treaty, the allegations of the US government will be enough to secure the extradition of people from the UK. However, if the UK wants to extradite someone from the US, evidence to the standard of a "reasonable" demonstration of guilt will still be required.
No other EU countries would accept this US demand, either politically or constitutionally. Yet the UK government not only acquiesced, but did so taking advantage of arcane legislative powers to see the treaty signed and implemented without any parliamentary debate or scrutiny."
And they call this country a democracy! This is the kind of thing you would expect in a police state dictatorship. And what has Cameron and his 'liberal democrat' partners done to rectify this? Sweet Fanny Adams!
Sorry, last thread was by me, forgot to press the right button!
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