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Saturday, September 16, 2006

Heil The Pope

Heil The PopeWell, well, well, it seems that Pope Benedict XVI has caused something of a stir with his recent remarks at Regensburg.

In his speech at Regensburg University, the Pope explored the historical and philosophical differences between Islam and Christianity, and the relationship between violence and faith.

He quoted Emperor Manuel II Paleologos of the Byzantine Empire, the Orthodox Christian empire which had its capital in what is now the Turkish city of Istanbul.

He quoted the emperor:

"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman,

such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached
."

The Pope said "I quote" twice to stress that the words were not his, and added that violence was "incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul".

There has been quite a kerfuffle, with various groups of "outraged" people calling for an apology, and even some good old fashioned effigy burning (reminiscent of Belfast in the 70's).

Even in the UK some groups have called for an apology. Baroness Uddin said that politicians must put pressure on Pope Benedict to express regret for the "disappointment and hurt" that he caused by his remarks.

The Muslim Council of Britain's secretary general, Mohammed Abdul Bari, said that the emperor's views about Islam were "ill informed" and "frankly bigoted".

The British Muslim News newspaper has called for the Pope to apologise and "withdraw the insulting remarks".

Why?

Is it now illegal to quote from the past?

Let me make two points here:
  • The Catholic church teaches that the pope is infallible; as such he can say what the fuck he likes, because God is speaking through him.

    Ain't religion wonderful?

    That being said, given this hotline to God, it would have been self evident that using such a comment from a long dead emperor would have caused a reaction from some quarters.

    What The Fuck?

    Therefore the question not being asked, that should be asked, is why did he say it?

    The Vatican is now seeking to clarify the Pope's comments. Given his infallibility, surely this is unnecessary?

    Maybe the Pope is not infallible?

    That would kind of undermine a central part of Catholic teaching.


  • With regard to the hysterical reaction from some Muslims, I would note this; where a religion is mature, intellectually resilient, open to debate and has faith in a "well rounded" deity, comments made by non believers should be easily weathered. Indeed the deity worshipped by that religion, given his all powerful nature, should be well able to stand up to verbal sticks and barbs without the need for hysteria amongst his earthly followers.

    It seems that such hysteria indicates that, at least amongst those who are hysterical, their faith and understanding in their own religion is not intellectually based but programmed into them; ie they have no real understanding as to why they are followers of that religion, and are afraid to question their own belief in their religion lest they find an answer that they don't like.
I have said it before, but it is worth saying again, religion has brought nothing but misery and violence to the world.

God, if he exists, does not need the creation of flawed man made religions to validate his existence.

7 comments:

  1. Anonymous1:38 PM

    Islam is the Religion of Peace.

    Anyone saying it is not so will be killed.

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  2. "I have said it before, but it is worth saying again, religion has brought nothing but misery and violence to the world."

    You and Cranmer ought to get together for an exchange of views.

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  3. Anonymous11:14 PM

    Ain't it funny?

    The buzz-phrase is that Christianity and Islam are compatible because they "share the same god".

    I just wonder why He gives His devoted followers different advice depending on what flag they're marching under...

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  4. Anonymous1:08 PM

    "such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

    Don't mention......The Spanish Inquisition!!!!!!!

    And what about the thousands of pagans who died at the stake through the "Burning Times"

    Both at the behest of the RC Church.

    Pete

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  5. Anonymous3:38 PM

    As I understand it the pope's speech suggested that some followers of islam had a tendancy to violence .... and the response has proved his case beyond any shadow of a doubt! Shame that religious types don't understand irony really.

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  6. Anonymous3:42 PM

    Pete:

    ,,:Don't mention......The Spanish Inquisition!!!!!!!

    And what about the thousands of pagans who died at the stake through the "Burning Times"

    That was over 400 years ago. This is here and now the Peacefull Religion of Peace still has not dragged itself and it's followers out of the bronze age.

    We would be shocked and appalled if the Pope called for the burning times again.

    Yet we give islam a pass for their barbarianism.

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  7. If you cannot acknowledge the good that religion does, then it is just propaganda.

    J. Michael Straczynski.

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