Nanny Bans Parents - Further Update III

Another email from Watford:

"I agree we have some lessons to learn I about to attend a " wash up " meeting on the topic and to try to work things out with our local paper.....agree about hysteria and leadership.
thanks
Dorothy"

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Nanny Bans Parents - Further Update II

Another couple of emails on this subject:

"Hi Ken
I agree100% with you and this was the line I took in a Three counties radio phone in when I asked that very question. I actually said " what kind of a world have we created when an elderly man can't bend down to talk to a child in the street without fear of being being shouted at by a fearful parent. Do you know what his answer was???" I don't want a dirty old man talking to my kids on the street! We have paedophile paranoia whipped up be the media and to which our poor public institutions must respond - its a tricky balancing act but we are NOT CRB checking parents in playgrounds nor banning them!!
sincerely
Dorothy


Hi Dorothy

I think it fair to say that, whatever the "actualite" of the circumstances surrounding the playground issue, the "communications side" of it has not necessarily been handled that well.

Some of the comments on the local paper's site indicate that there is quite some divergence of views as to the "facts" of this matter.

Wrt paranoia I would suggest that the suitable "response" to "media induced hysteria" (which most certainly exists wrt many issues, not just paedophilia), is not for public institutions or the politicians running them to roll over and do what the hysterics want, but for the politicians to show some real leadership and stand up to the hysterics.

Allowing the tabloids and the mob to dictate policy will lead us further down the very unpleasant path that we have already been travelling for far too long.

Kind regards

Ken "

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Prats of The Week - Nanny Bans Lemons

Oh my golly gosh, tis time for another prestigious "Prats of The Week" Award.

This week it goes to the Asda "superstore" in Aberdeen, for displaying Nanny Numptiness well beyond the call of duty.

Chris Pether, 70 years old, recently attempted to buy two lemons from Asda and was in the process of using the automatic checkout, when a message appeared on the screen of the checkout machine informing him that this was more than the maximum number he could purchase.

A supervisor duly appeared, who told him that health and safety rules prevented them from selling more than one loose lemon, orange or grapefruit.

What the fark?

For why?

It seems, my loyal readers, that local "yooves" (or is it "yoofs"?) have been throwing fruit at people.

Well now here are few observations:

1 Maybe the "yooves" were assisting people in reaching Nanny's "Five a day" target.

2 Whatever the "yooves" may, or may not, be up to since when is it a supermarket's business to get themselves involved with law breaking (if indeed it really is law breaking) matters outwith their own premises?

3 Errm, I assume that there is more than one establishment in Aberdeen from which fruits can be purchased? Surely the "yooves" will simply buy their fruit elsewhere?

4 Automatic checkout "rationing" such as this can be easily circumvented by simply creating separate checkouts for each product rationed; time consuming maybe, but still easy to do.

Ironically, and here's the really really daft part of all of this nonsense, Mr Pether was then informed that he could still buy a pack of ten lemons.

Eh?

Confused?

Simple my loyal readers, the lemons in the ten pack are smaller, and therefore less dangerous!

Mr Pether got his lemons, by paying for them using two separate transactions.

The Asda bunker, determined to make complete prats of themselves, then denied that they were rationing lemons at that store or indeed nationwide. A spokesman for the supermarket said:

"It sounds like one of our colleagues was having a really bad day.

People can buy as many lemons, oranges and grapefruits as they like."

If that was true:

- why was the checkout system programmed to refuse the transaction?

- why did the human supervisor not override the system?

Someone is telling porkies!

Asda, well deserving "Prats of The Week"!

Drop them a note here Asda.

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Nanny Bans Parents - Further Update

Further emails were exchanged today:

"Thanks XXXX

I have posted it on the site.

However, I would note that "Rebekah Makinson, mum-of-three, added: We have used Harwoods since I was a child and my mother stayed with me. "

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/4705034.Parents_banned_from_council_play_areas/

This doesn't tie in with the council explanation that "a handful of parents have been staying on, not just dropping their children off. Staff that run the facility felt they were getting in the way and diverting their attention away from focusing entirely on the children in their care " which implies that the rule change was in response to recent changes in parent behaviour.

Given that parents have been staying on for years, why change the rules now?

Creating a climate of fear is not the way to bring up children.

Kind regards

Ken Frost

Hello again

I think the point to make is that nearly all the parents that use the Harwoods site (now and in years gone by) drop their children off and don't stay, and all the parents at the other site, Harebreaks, drop their children off.

This small percentage of parents staying on at Harwoods has been acceptable over the years and not caused problems, but recently there have been issues that have affected our staff being able to run these to the best of their abilities - and the decision was taken to bring the two sites in line, but please rest assured this isn't something we've done lightly.

Again, I can't stress enough - knowing Dorothy as I do, she is 100% not somebody that buys into the 'every adult is a potential paedophile' view.

Best,
XXX
Political assistant to the elected mayor
Watford Borough Council"

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Nanny Bans Parents

All adult are paedophiles, unless they can prove otherwise and are supervised, that appears to be the message from Nanny.

Parents in Watford have discovered this to their cost recently as the council, under the auspices of Mayor Dorothy Thornhill, have banned them from watching their own children at two council play areas (Harwoods and Harebreaks recreation grounds).

Nanny will place "vetted" council staff ("play rangers") in charge. The mayor says that this enforces government policy.

"Enforced government policy"!

That says it all, doesn't it?

Councils are now the "enforcers" of the state, they no longer act in the interest of the people who elect them.

Mayor Thornhill is quoted in the Watford Observer:

"Sadly, in today's climate, you can't have adults walking around unchecked in a children's playground."

Here's why she is clueless, and is talking absolute bollocks:

1 If you can't trust the parents (from a normal non feral family), who exactly are you meant to trust?

2 Parents have been supervising their own children for the last 150,000 years or so, without the need for state interference. Why now do we need it?

3 Is the Mayor familiar with the Salem Witch Trials? Does she not see the parallels between that and today's paranoia whipped up by a moronic mainstream media, compliant politicians and feeble minded councils?

4 Who gave this council the right to ban parents from overseeing their own children?

5 By stating that all adults (including parents) are potential paedophiles the state is placing a very large barrier between adults and children, making the children afraid of all adults. What kind of a world is being created here, where children are afraid of all adults?

6 Why should people trust the state to be in any shape or form involved in the upbringing of their children?

7 Why is the woman allowed out in public without adult supervision?

8 There is no "official" government policy that states parents may not supervise their own children. Please could Mayor Thornhill state which piece of legislation she is referring to?

What kind of a world have we created for children where they must now fear every adult they meet?

Since the media got wind of the story, the council have attempted to claim that there is no ban:

"The press have inaccurately reported what Harwoods and Harebreaks are; they are not open public facilities. They never have been. They are closed, fully supervised facilities.

They are no different to other fully supervised facilities, like schools, playgroups or nurseries - where adults are not allowed to stay.

Parents and carers are, of course, welcome to bring their children safely into the sites and settle them in."

Read the above carefully, and you will see that there is a ban; all the council have done is to "recategorise" the area as a "closed facility".

Not only do they ban parents, but when confronted the squirm and lie!

Why, if these really were closed facilities, were parents allowed in before?

Lies from start to finish!

Mayor Thornhill, and her "witch burning" council lackeys, need to removed from their offices without delay.

Mayor Thornhill claims to be a Liberal Democrat, snort!

Here is her email address themayor@watford.gov.uk

UPDATE

Just arrived in my email box from Watford:

"Dear Ken

The Mayor is not in the office today and I'm sure will email you herself, but I wanted to reassure you that she's not taken leave of her senses, and contrary to reports in the media, Watford Borough Council has not banned parents from public parks and playgrounds in the town!

This is about our adventure playgrounds, which are closed-off, fenced-in, fully supervised facilities for the over 5s. Parents drop off their kids and leave them in our care - no different to playgroups or schools where you wouldn't expect parents stay on. We have a responsibility to those parents to safeguard their children, and provide the best possible environment for them.

What has happened is that at Harwoods adventure playground a handful of parents have been staying on, not just dropping their children off. Staff that run the facility felt they were getting in the way and diverting their attention away from focusing entirely on the children in their care - who are enjoying more adventurous risky play, not just the usual slides and swings. They’ve now reluctantly decided its best to exclude these parents, and have brought the site in line with the other site Harebreaks, where parents don't stay on and they have no problems.

Quotes attributed to Dorothy have been taken out of context – she's not saying adults shouldn’t be allowed on playgrounds - that would go against everything she believes in – only on these specialised play facilities! And parents are allowed to come in and settle their children in, it's just not ideal that they hang around (and most don't), unless of course they become proper volunteers. We have 40 open public playgrounds elsewhere in the Borough where adults can stay and play with their children.

She's absolutely not a nanny state supporter!

Best wishes,

XXXXX
Political assistant to the elected mayor
Watford Borough Council"


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