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Thursday, July 31, 2008

Big Brother - The Secret Use of The DNA Database

Big Brother
My thanks to Dixon of Dock Green who alerted me to this article on the Liberal Democrat site.

I publish below unedited.

Now is this doesn't tell you that Nanny has been lying through her teeth to us, over her plans for the DNA database, what will?

We still have two more years of this bunch of fascists in office (whoever ends up being PM), it never ceases to amaze me how the Labour Party (which claims to be "for the people") always ends up acting like fascists.

Things are going to get worse!

Article from Lib Dems (who are in many cases almost as bad as Nu Labour)

The Home office has been allowing private companies access to the DNA database for commercial reasons, according to research by the Liberal Democrats.

The information, revealed in response to Freedom of Information requests, shows how:
  • Up to May of this year, the Home Office approved 25 applications for research projects using DNA profiles from the DNA database

  • 5 are from private companies - Three from LGC and two from Orchid Cellmark

  • In some of the research projects, full details are not disclosed because of FOI s43. This allows companies to not give details because it would harm their commercial interests.

  • No one whose DNA is being used in these projects has given their consent.

  • Innocent people are on the database, and their DNA will have been included in the research.

  • The police, many of whose officers have added themselves to the DNA database voluntarily, rejected a request for their DNA samples to be used in a research project.
Liberal Democrat MP, Jenny Willott said:

"For nearly a decade, the Home Office has been secretly approving controversial research projects using profiles from the DNA database.

No consent was ever sought from the people involved, many of whom have never been charged or convicted of any offence.

It is outrageous that people's DNA has on five occasions been passed to private companies to pursue their own commercial interests.

The 25 projects that have been approved by ministers include some sinister explorations into ethnic profiling.

It is appalling that these Big Brother practices have been allowed to go on unchecked for so long and with extremely limited ethical standards.

Unless the Government comes clean about exactly what they are using profiles for, this highly dubious ethical practice of dishing DNA out for research must be suspended immediately

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  1. Anonymous10:45 AM

    Find out why dna databases are risky

    Seems that the bigger the database the higher the chance of mis-identification. And big pharma is all for it. I wonder why?

    Want to see what can go wrong when you have dna databases? A real case of mis-identification over a sex offence. The only reason this bloke didn't get done was that he was in prison at the time of the offence.

    Also try googling Iceland dna database to see how far this can be taken - whole population, by law

  2. Anonymous10:47 AM

    I have had concerns for a long time about the distribution of information to third parties for commercial purposes that the law requires us to provide to Nanny and her little helpers.....We have had the DVLA seeling the contents of their database, we have local Nanny selling the contents of her database and we learned yeaterday that the new form in the HIPs pack will be stored on another database that local Nanny "rip off tax"(Council Tax) officers will have access to in order to re assess your rip off tax banding....The new form requires you to give details of improvements to your home such as bathrooms and extensions etc.

    I was recently a victim of my confidential information being passed on to a third party by Nanny's NHS. I was called in to attend a medical examination and a series of health related interviews and advice session by an organisation called BioBank.....
    Here is a link:

    They had been given my details by the NHS and had told my doctor what they had done......They assumed I would just turn up and be happy to attend and answer their questions and provide samples of blood and DNA etc etc for their database....They used emotive language about improving the health of the nation's children in the future and expected me to participate over the next twenty years....They just booked me an appointment and told me where to go...Obviously, I telephoned their "Customer Service Line" and told them I was neither willing to take part nor provide samples and that I was extremely annoyed that they should have access to my medical records and "other" records that they did not expand on.

    Of course, the main reason for Nanny to sell this information is to keep her tills ringing....Kerching!!

  3. I too had a letter from Biobank asking me to attend a medical examination. However, I was in a position to have a little more fun than Tonk in that the organisation I work for was hosting a seminar by the folks from Biobank and I was invited.

    Imagine the looks of horror when during a Q and A session I stood up and enquired as to the ethics of contacting people when they had not given their permission to be contacted in such a way, a way that my own organisation would never consider doing.

  4. Anonymous4:43 PM

    Velcome to zer new reich mein herrern und madchen.

    Ein EU zat vill store every aspect of your life on a database to be accessed by some greasy little Himmler like creature in the bowels of Brussels or its provencial government in London.

    Achtung, stand to attention and prepare to be swabbed by zer europol offitzer vilst Ode to Joy (der new national anthem of das gloroius EU) plays.

  5. Anonymous7:46 PM



    number 6 is, obviously, MAX MOSLEY!


  6. Funny you should say that, tonk.

    I was perplexed a few years ago when I started to receive bumph through the post relating to medical aids. The only connection I could think of was the recent surgery that I'd undergone the nature of which was quite unusual for someone of my age.

    I never did get a satisfactory answer to my enquiring how they'd got my details.

  7. Anonymous9:34 AM


    Max and I are indeed close chums. We do indeed share some recreational activities that involve a little fancy dressing up.

    I must stress that we are only playing at being little Adolphs, the EU are deadly serious in their deisre to create a fascist state.

  8. Anonymous8:50 PM

    I smell the stench of ewe-genics

  9. Anonymous6:27 PM

    Disgraceful! Good for you for letting us know!

  10. Anonymous6:32 PM

    The UK is all ready as much a police state as FSU was in it's heyday!Now we'll have to move to Russia if we want privacy and freedom . Ha!

  11. Anonymous1:10 PM

    If this was happening or had happened in somewhere like China, North Korea, Iran or Zimbabwe, there would be no end to the number of government ministers queuing up to condemn such behaviour. However, as this is England, and has been sanctioned by the English government, their silence on the subject is deafening!

  12. Anonymous4:16 PM


    It is indeed 'sanctioned' by our local government, but the all pervasive ID system comes from our real government, the EU.

    Cameron may overule ID cards, but the EU will simply tell him that he will have to bring them in as they will be required to travel within Europe, to combat terrorism (as if people who blow themselves up on trains care about having a bit of plastic in their pocket) etc etc etc

    Your papers please, has a nice ring to it doesn't it?